Curse

Destroyer1717 · Jan 11, 2008, 05:15 AM // 05:15

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Nope, i never went there, didn't get banned, but almost everyone i know got banned. Whats the point of playing a game when your just going to get banned sooner or later?

With something like 3-4 million accounts on guild wars, even accounting for the fact that far fewer play every day, that means... idk 117/500,000 = .0234% of guild wars people got banned. For violating the EULA. that means the 99.9% of people who play guild wars legitimately are not banned. That's far from everyone getting banned sooner or later...
Honestly, the problem for you is that you picked crappy friends.

gw ftl always · Jan 11, 2008, 05:18 AM // 05:18

YOu can call me stupid, or whatever all you want, but the simple fact is, I did all 4 quests, got to mallyx, was brought to a town, did nt know it was wrong, did it about 25 times, got bored, moved on. It had been over amonth since I last did it, and I still got banned. I never even got a complete gymset and had to buy half the gyms I used to make the 2 armbraces I did get.

When Urgoz and THE DEEP came out, There was only 2 alliances who could access them. You Ferried in, and kept a char in guild hall to map people to them. I figured this was the same type of deal, I had no idea it was some sort of hack. I was simply mapped there thru a guild hall. i didnt have to hack anything, I couldnt if i did. its a boring farm, MY guild had moved on. 600 dungeons ftw anyway.

I do want my game back, but if you concider 25 farms an unreconcilable differnce, I guess I can go cold turkey and commit suicide, or I can play my alt with its lvl 2s and re learn the love for the game in pre.

GG gail. all my friends are ban, most of us hadnt done this "farm" for a month. We didnt know it was illegal, and we werent quite about it or keeping it secret.

I guess We are DUMB.

*wishing wow wasnt so gay*
V!

OK so anyway, sorry i must expand on this part.

I was mapped to URGOZ in month 2 of factoins thru a guild hall by a guildie. it was fairly empty. I REALLY did think this was the same. I had NO IDEA i was breaking a EULA agreement.
I kept a char in Urgoz for nearly a year. I mapped people to it ALL the time.. Was that illegal too? I shoulda been baned ages ago if it was. Im not being a smart ass, Im just upset I really didnt know.
I had 3k nearly 4k hrs, 400$ ruffly invested.

I hope I can get mine back. If not. GW FTL ALWAYS

Phaern Majes · Jan 11, 2008, 05:19 AM // 05:19

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Originally Posted by quicksilv3r

yes it is gg Gaile!

But that doent says nothing about a taxi to a place (much like a run to droks or a taxi to docks for better armour) no body has broken the t & c. there was many "bugs" like this and no one has been banned before-Quoted by truzo 117

same thing here no tweaking of clients, server side or host. just normal rans tele to locations!

Did you read the first page? In order to "warp" to the hidden map you had to HACK to access it (EDIT: your party leader had to hack). So no this is nothing like ferrying. And a droks run isn't even a bug it just people rushing through maps rather than fighting through them. I have fought from beacon's to droks with a low level char. Thats right I said FOUGHT. Few hours later I made it got max armor and voila didn't do a damn thing wrong and saved a couple k, totally not worth it.

Roo Ella · Jan 11, 2008, 05:23 AM // 05:23

I never knew about this till reading this thread but I was always under the
impression that GW was pretty much unhackable thats why they didn't care much about Textmod 3rd party program that only changes textures.
I know this is a Different 3rd party thingy but if anyone used the "exploit" either deliberately or just saying "unintentionally" they need to be banned.
Even if it was a Dev accident and left it open to abuse.
Sorry to those that got caught up in this but in reality you get what you deserve.

gw ftl always · Jan 11, 2008, 05:25 AM // 05:25

[QUOTE=Phaern Majes]Did you read the first page? In order to "warp" to the hidden map you had to HACK to access it (EDIT: your party leader had to hack). So no this is nothing like ferrying. And a droks run isn't even a bug it just people rushing through maps rather than fighting through them. I have fought from beacon's to droks with a low level char. Thats right I said FOUGHT. Few hours later I made it got max armor and voila didn't do a damn thing wrong and saved a couple k, totally not worth it.[/QUOTE

you didnt have to hack anything> MY game isnt/wasnt hacked. I got mapped htere just like you get mapped to the guild hall.

truzo 117 · Jan 11, 2008, 05:25 AM // 05:25

No, your wrong. im in the 1337 117 club and your all wrong, there was no hacking whatsoever, its a simple trick, it was a leak or a accident how the first people found it.

Cuthroat Dibbler · Jan 11, 2008, 05:26 AM // 05:26

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Originally Posted by i am a princess

where is the blame for your so called beta testers, how do you know they didn't leak that info and gw players caught onto it.

Something that I have wondered for a while now is how some people "seem" to have info that they shouldnt strictly be privvy to?

Again, certain Guilds and players rise to the fore, again and again......

And this isn't the first time Beta testers and ANet associated Guilds have been implicated in "dodgy dealings"....

what chance does the 'average player' have when the dice are so clearly loaded against them?

It has now reached the point where an "average player" need not bother to aspire to such things as a low Req Crystalline or High End minipet because the values have been regularly inflated to the point of unobtainable. Add to that that accts being banned reduces the actual amount of these items in the game, again inflating the value...whats the point? seriously? I've all but given up.

Theres a saying in Sales that if a customer goes away happy they may tell 2-3 people, but if they are unhappy they will tell 10 pwoplw and those 10 will tell another 10. Word is spreading about the "shadiness" that exisits in this game and that the field is eternally uneven. How long before an exodus?

And as an added note, and a depressing one to boot...how many of those people banned will be one of the first to buy GW2 to do this all over again? Inspired? I'm not.

When at least one poster admits to doing this over a MONTH ago it makes me wonder whats going on (and just how many Armbraces are now in the economy.....a conservative estimate....say 1 billion gp? - were that kind of economic upset to occur in say the UK what would actually happen to the markets? Please dont tell me they would "flourish"). So, I rest my case on the unobtainable....this has been going on so long as to fundamentally alienate people from the higher end goods in this game. Access by exploit only it seems.

One is not amused.

CyberMesh0 · Jan 11, 2008, 05:26 AM // 05:26

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Originally Posted by Tagne

Nope, i never went there, didn't get banned, but almost everyone i know got banned. Whats the point of playing a game when your just going to get banned sooner or later?

Play with fire, you get burned.

Do something that's a bannable offense, and you get banned.

Capisce?

Phaern Majes · Jan 11, 2008, 05:28 AM // 05:28

Notice my edit... maybe it didn't have to be a party leader but at least the first time you access the special outpost SOMEONE IN YOUR PARTY WAS RUNNING A HACK.

Maybe you don't know who, maybe you didn't know anyone was. Thats life though.

Phaern Majes · Jan 11, 2008, 05:31 AM // 05:31

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

An exploit was recently discovered in Guild Wars that allowed client-hackers to travel to a hidden outpost. From that outpost, they could travel directly into the room containing Mallyx, the final boss in the Domain of Anguish.

So thats a complete lie then? I'm not saying that YOU YOURSELF actually ran a 3rd party program and hacked anything. But the first people who got there did. Once they were there, they could probably just ferry in others from their guild hall (who then in turn could do the same). Yes I understand thats different then what I was saying (I went back reread that first bit). But it was found through a client-hack.

gw ftl always · Jan 11, 2008, 05:32 AM // 05:32

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Originally Posted by Phaern Majes

Notice my edit... maybe it didn't have to be a party leader but at least the first time you access the special outpost SOMEONE IN YOUR PARTY WAS RUNNING A HACK.

Maybe you don't know who, maybe you didn't know anyone was. Thats life though.

WTF are you talking about dude? NO one in our guild even knows how to hack. NO we were simply mapped htere like you map to kamadan to guild hall. NO kidding you.

Ever been to urgoz? IT the same, well I thought it was. I have no idea how someone supposedly got this or wahtever, but most of us didnt know it was wrong.

gw ftl always · Jan 11, 2008, 05:34 AM // 05:34

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Originally Posted by Phaern Majes

So thats a complete lie then?

YES its a complete lie. Complete. My shit isnt hacked. GAILE GRAY can come to my house and check. If my wife will let her in my house, but thats besides the point. My client isnt hacked. TYVM

Azarr#1 · Jan 11, 2008, 05:35 AM // 05:35

There was one person that hacked the game if you are not banned and did not do it be happy and play the game to be posting on the forum if you dont know what you are talking about. You can simply go back the to guild hall and the last place you were at you can remap back there. no hacks involved. so not everyone in the party or not one person needs a hack to get there all the time

Gattocheese · Jan 11, 2008, 05:36 AM // 05:36

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Originally Posted by chaoticimajar

5 months or sooo

OMG! This thing has been going on for 5 months. No wonder why some people have stacks of armbraces. I can understand some gold buyers and powertraders, but to see such things as 5 stacks of armbraces without being dupes is horrible.

I am one of the few that play GW that enjoys rarity. I love the high and low market scheme. I can understand not being banned for going once or twice. But any more than that should be banned. And just to let you know, you cant be dragged into defeating Malyx over and over. Its called free will.

pochoWICKED · Jan 11, 2008, 05:37 AM // 05:37

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Originally Posted by chaoticimajar

but man i am so happy i got banned my title char (26 titles) was super ugly and i didn't have the heart to delete her but anet did it for me / wooot!

Totally
they made my life better in a way.
At least i farmed like 12 armbraces last month =)

truzo 117 · Jan 11, 2008, 05:38 AM // 05:38

yeh man that hair was ugly... GAILE GRAY knows its not a hack, all of Anet know, and they know if you was to do something accidently wrong you could get the secret town.

Phaern Majes · Jan 11, 2008, 05:38 AM // 05:38

Once again in case you missed my edit.

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Originally Posted by Phaern Majes

I'm not saying that YOU YOURSELF actually ran a 3rd party program and hacked anything. But the first people who got there did. Once they were there, they could probably just ferry in others from their guild hall (who then in turn could do the same). Yes I understand thats different then what I was saying (I went back reread that first bit). But it was found through a client-hack.

That would be my explanation. Most people were probably just ferried in, but at least one person (the first person to find it for sure) hacked. I think thats what Gaile was saying when I reread that bit.

Error of My Ways · Jan 11, 2008, 05:41 AM // 05:41

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

I will share several bits of information, and then will read the other pages in the forum. But let me answer some of the many comments being offered here, all based on the position that was really pretty clearly detailed in today's Dev Update:

No one was banned for entering the mission, killing Mallyx, and taking the loot, even if they did that a few times.

In fact, the bar was set higher than a one-time or even few-time occurrence, as the Dev Update states, to avoid banning someone who was pulled there inadvertently or to avoid banning someone who might have thought he was helping by "testing" the exploit.

[LIST]
Thank you to those who support ArenaNet in making this painful decision. And our sincere thanks to those who knew of this exploit and did not use it, or who kindly reported it to us directly, so that we could prevent a major impact upon the game about which all of us care so deeply.

Are you honestly joking? The area in the post that I bolded is exactly what I am describing to Guild Wars Support. If the ban requirements are the way you say they are I would NOT be banned right now. But I lost 6000 hours of hard work because I tested the exploit, reported my findings directly to support (2 days before it got leaked onto Guru), deleted all of my items I received while testing, and removed my characters from the outpost.

shiznid12 · Jan 11, 2008, 05:41 AM // 05:41

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

We have had protests saying something like, "But I only did it 4 times!"And the answer is, "You're right: You used the exploit 4 times. And then you used the exploit 20 more times on your other character."

If this is the case, please inform me why I was banned? I've only had 1 character able to ever enter the Mallyx outpost, so I never used multiple characters.

If you didn't ban people for doing the exploit 4 times, then I don't deserve to be banned. I think it's odd that someone who does this for an hour gets the same banning as the person who hacked the client, and has been exploiting this for 6 months.

If you didn't mean to ban people who only accessed the outpost 4 times, I think researching your bannings more indepth is the way to go. Also, if you can, check to see what I did with my quest rewards, because I obviously didn't use them for personal gain. Unless I benefit from moving them to the garbage can.

Azarr#1 · Jan 11, 2008, 05:41 AM // 05:41

there is no way possible that anyone at all can make a stack of armbraces by this exploit 20 minutes a run will not get you a stack of armbraces. this game has alot of glitches and that copy exploit was the fall of alot of prices because there is no way at all people could get some 20 stacks of ecto by farming they transferred it to another account before they were banned and still ruined the economy